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Above: CNN's triumphalist reporting on Kiev's attack on Russian bases.
RE: Those pesky Ukie missiles hitting Russian strategic bases deep inland
Rambert
IMO. They're not traveling 600km. They're locally launched within abt 50km. That's why they're "not seen". They're launched by sabotage groups operating in Russia. They're designed to undermine the faith in Russian security. The claim of 600km is generated by ukrops channels to increase the propaganda element.
Posted by: MoA HERMIUS | Dec 29 2022 15:27 utc | 40
@ HERMIUS | Dec 29 2022 15:27 utc | 46
Almost certainly the case, IMV. Hence the recent directive/decree for increased internal security efforts by all relevant agencies across the entire RF. Internal saboteurs, agents & operatives.
@ Orwellian Language | Dec 29 2022 14:57 utc | All
RE: The problem with Russophobic Poland (and WW2...)
@ Julian [45]
Poland has a fair claim to 5 Western Ukrainian oblasts.
Poland lost its "fair claim" by their own government's actions to make sure WW2 would happen. Both the Polish government and the vast majority of their citizens were adamantly opposed to any security agreement with France and the USSR. The memoirs of French General Doumenc are unequivocal. August 1939, two weeks before WW2 started, he was on a mission to Moscow to get an agreement. The sticking point was Polish refusal. He sent Captain Beaufre to Warsaw to get the Poles to change their mind. His proposal to allow Soviet armies into Poland under very tight conditions, if Germany ever attacked, was rebuffed in such strong terms that the French and British diplomats stationed in Warsaw refused to ask the Polish government a second time. Obviously, the fact that a minor nation (i.e. Poland) would be allowed to dictate French and British policy shows that these two major powers also did not want any security agreement with the USSR. Doumenc clearly discussed British intransigence in his memoirs, and you can indirectly read French intransigence as well. By Doumenc's account, it was only on August 19 at 10 pm, that Doumenc says the Soviets turned away from the French-UK mission and agreed to allow the German delegation to come to Moscow.
So the Polish government formally refused the only security agreement that would have prevented WW2 and saved Poland. That government went out of existence when the Nazis defeated it, a week before Soviet troops entered what had been Eastern Poland. It was a BS fiction of the British to have an "exile government" in London. In 1944, it was another British BS fiction to have an early uprising in Warsaw that cost the lives of thousands of Polish patriots, merely in order to do damage to the Soviet Army and its reputation. After WW2, the USSR did not want a repeat of the Polish hyenas of the 1920s and 1930s. If "hyenas" seems too harsh, that was Churchill's word, when the Nazis seized Czechoslovakia and Poland tore off a piece for herself, Těšín, and the region around this town in 1938. The Soviets paid a large economic price with its occupation of Poland, in order to create goodwill with the Polish people. Obviously, this did not succeed. Even President Lech Wałęsa, who had a significant role in the demise of the Soviet Union, regretted what his nation had become after the USSR collapsed. after he became President, retired, and rough men, probably puppets of the West, replaced him. I never followed Polish politics, but I suppose the Vatican and the CIA steered the Polish people into what is nearly a suicidal and entirely immoral hatred of Russia.
So Poland does not deserve those territories even though 250,000 Poles were massacred there, because these victims were murdered by the same Banderas that Poland officially supports today.
Galicia needs to become a sort of Alcatraz, isolated for the criminals living there. It needs the sort of treatment that Hans Morgenthau, the American Jewish banker, wanted for postwar Germany: purely agrarian and totally de-fanged.
Posted by: MoA JessDTruth | Dec 29 2022 16:54 utc | 49
RE: Western infiltration of international bodies; Nobody to negotiate with in Kiev; Distrust of Poles
Today, Lavrov was interviewed by Rossiya Segodnya. As Lavrov interviews go, this one is very short, yet it does cover two important points: whether Russia will remain in OSCE and is there anyone in Ukraine capable of conducting negotiations. The two other questions don't pertain to Ukraine or related events.
Question: Given the state of affairs in the OSCE, does Moscow consider it necessary to maintain its representation at the Organisation?
Could there be a question of suspending our membership in it?
Sergey Lavrov: Let me be clear: things are not going well in the OSCE. The organization was created as a platform for equal dialogue and cooperation, but over the past few years it has been in a deep crisis.The West perceives the OSCE as a tool to promote its collective interests and has turned it into an arena for propaganda battles. In 2022, the current chairman of the Organization was Poland with its openly anti-Russian attitudes. According to our assessment, the Poles succeeded in only one thing – they reduced the effectiveness of the OSCE's work to zero.
This did not come as a surprise to us. After all, in general, Western countries – and they, for the most part, are both OSCE participants and NATO members – have long and purposefully trampled on the principles of the Vienna organization's activities, the spirit and letter of the basic documents adopted in it – including at the highest level – in the field of European security. For example, NATO's expansion and the approximation of its military infrastructure to Russia's borders flagrantly violates the commitment not to strengthen one's own security at the expense of the security of others. We are now reaping the benefits of the selfish, short-sighted policies of our former partners, whose credibility has been thoroughly undermined. And one of the lessons is that if and when we return to working together, it will have to be done on new principles, because the old approaches no longer work.
Question: Do you think there is a political force or politician in Ukraine now with whom Moscow would be ready to negotiate, and can such a figure appear in the foreseeable future?
Sergey Lavrov: The current clip [clique] of Ukrainian politicians is well known to everyone for its inability to negotiate. Most of them are outspoken Russophobes.Let me remind you that immediately after the start of the special military operation, Zelensky took the initiative to sit down at the negotiating table. We did not reject it and agreed to meet with his representatives.
Several rounds of talks have shown that mutually acceptable agreements can be found. However, the negotiation process that began in February demonstrated the complete lack of independence of V.Zelensky in making important decisions. Already in April, at the behest of the Anglo-Saxons, interested in continuing hostilities, he quickly stopped negotiations and sharply hardened his position.
It is obvious that Kiev is not ready for dialogue. Putting forward various ideas and "formulas for peace", V. Zelensky cherishes the illusion of achieving with the help of the West the withdrawal of our troops from the Russian territory of Donbass, Crimea, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, the payment of reparations by Russia, the appearance "with guilt in international tribunals", etc.
Of course, we will not talk to anyone on such terms. It is difficult to say whether adequate politicians remain in the territories controlled by the Kiev regime, especially given the widespread practice of suppressing dissent and summary executions of dissenters. Could some sane political figure appear in Kiev later? We'll have to wait and see. [My Emphasis]
As you read, the Poles are held in contempt--Again. But they are acting no differently than most of the other NATO/OSCE members. For those who missed Lavrov's previous two lengthy and very important interviews, The one with TASS is here, while the one with Channel One's program The Great Game is here.
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 29 2022 17:15 utc | 53
RE: The long, long (but hidden) CIA-Nazi connection
James C @78--
During the 1990s, many secret docs about Outlaw US Empire involvement with keeping Nazism and OUN alive in Ukraine and elsewhere were released and several books were written based upon them, and Congressional hearings were also held as a result. That documentary record is very clear and damning as you would expect. Cynthia Chung's second of her three-part series provides the essential info and links about 1/3rd of the way through the text. Here's some of that meat:
"In 1998, the Nazi War Crimes and Japanese Imperial Government Records Interagency Working Group (IWG), at the behest of Congress, launched what became the largest congressionally mandated, single-subject declassification effort in history. As a result, more than 8.5 million pages of records have been opened to the public under the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act (P.L. 105-246) and the Japanese Imperial Government Disclosure Act (P.L. 106-567). These records include operational files of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the CIA, the FBI and Army intelligence. IWG issued three reports to Congress between 1999 and 2007.
"A research group was put together to compile and organise key elements of this massive newly declassified database, the result was the publication of “U.S. Intelligence and The Nazis” in 2005, and “Hitler’s Shadow Nazi War Criminals, U. S. Intelligence, and the Cold War” in 2011, both published by the National Archives, and which will be used as a key reference for the rest of this paper."
If your father is unwilling to read facts, then there's no help for him--sorry. If you have trouble reaching the linked article, here's the link to Chung's article's substack page.
I also note that Chung has published the first of two volumes about "The Birth of International Fascism and Anglo-American Foreign Policy" whose full title is The Empire on which the Black Sun Never Set: The Birth of International Fascism and Anglo-American Foreign Policy. Info about that and more can be found here. I have yet to read her book, but her thesis corresponds to one which several of us at MoA have developed over the last several years and which I wrote a short note about saying WW2's outcome remains unfinished as Nazism was never expunged as was agreed but was kept alive by the Outlaw US Empire and its fascist allies in UK and Europe.
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 29 2022 19:53 utc | 90
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RE: Iran's intrinsic value
Iran is central to Eurasia and Eurasia is central to world domination by any global government. Iran and Ukraine are the two key components to any world leadership rule. Brzezinski presents Ukraine as the pivotal country for containing Russia. He says, “Ukraine is the critical state, insofar as Russia’s future evolution is concerned”. He says, “Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire”. This is another example of his skillful wording because Ukraine as part of a hostile military alliance does not only prevent a Russian “empire”; it presents a potential threat. Kyiv is less than 500 miles from Moscow and Ukraine was a major route of the Nazi invasion.
on December 31, 2022 · at 12:00 pm EST/EDT
i don't have a doubt about the geopolitical value of Ukraine and iran. what i am saying is that iran by it self and under this government fails to be the most powerful in its own region. additionally its plagued by an unbelievable number of faults and problems which now turned into cancer inside Iran, economic mismanagement, worsening welfare, constant devaluation of our currency, decaying and sometimes incomplete infrastructure that is wasting alot of resources and making Iran incaple of competition in industry, but above all an atmosphere of cynism and distrust towards the government. especially in the current situation in Iran.
on December 31, 2022 · at 12:27 pm EST/EDT
Russia and China as well as anyone with an IQ above room temperature would strongly disagree with your evaluation. Iran isn’t just Iran, Iran is the nucleus of the Axis of Resistance, spread far and wide.
Keeping Russia and Iran apart is US-NATO’s’-Israel’s greatest achievement to date. The Zionist and Neocon long-term plan of suffocating Iran/Ally is Over. Iran survived the brutality and stood firm. Iran will flourish economically (150 Billion) in foreign investment and it will take its rightful place on the BRICS + Security Council, which in Zone B will not have a western UN deadbeat majority of declining powers.
on December 31, 2022 · at 6:26 pm EST/EDT
Thank you for answering Yi-Ping so well. I would only add that we should be mindful of the severe damage wrought by the US in both Iran and the Ukraine. Decades of blockades, assassinations, and coups have not destroyed Iran. But then it doesn’t have a Jewish government.
on December 31, 2022 · at 9:14 pm EST/EDT
Sounds a bit like you don’t support your Country which is fighting against the war-mongering US. In case you didn’t know your Country Iran is under unbelievable sanctions etc that make life tough for all Iranians. Your post is a disappointment.
on January 01, 2023 · at 5:08 am EST/EDT
If the current political system in Iran were to be brought down, most likely by the US/Neocons working in the background, the country of Iran will be no more, à la former Yugoslavia. What will ensue as result is the division of Iran into a number of smaller and much weaker vassal states, along ethnic and racial divides, run by the Neocons and their masters in the City of London, from behind. This may also be the method by which the political system gets taken down. I.e., a color revolution using violence à la Ukraine 2014. Thus, the unrest that we have witnessed more recently, and even previously.
on December 31, 2022 · at 12:46 pm EST/EDT
Think of the context. Iran has been under sanctions for almost a century and yet, not only has it survived but it is a major player. Countries capitulate to the west suffering much less, Iran is doing great.
on December 31, 2022 · at 12:58 pm EST/EDT
You see Iran, because being part of the New World is not just a question of size, or any other objective measurement. You are seeing it because it has constructed a major Paradigm Shift, from an old, anachronistic one, to a new one, one which fits the new Dominant Paradigm constructed and enacted by Russia and China, and increasingly the other named nations.
This is what I wrote further down, but it explains your query also:
There is a name, the “collective West”, which is also the American Empire; America, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, the nations of the Atlantic Peninsula, generally known as “Europe”. They are all part of the Old World, in terms of Paradigms. They are the nations clinging to an anachronistic Paradigm, which was that life consisted of violent attack, invasion, and taking of value by force. They sailed the world from that Atlantic Peninsula and UK, and invaded, killing lawful inhabitants of lands they invaded. American “Indians”, Canadian “Indians; the Inca and Maya of the Andean Continent, the peoples of the Caribbean; nations of Africa, and the Pacific Orient, China, Vietnam, India and the Global South, killing, invading, killing, and taking, stealing, creating Poverty as they went. This was the Age of Empire;. these were Empires – not only the biggest, the AngloSaxon Empire of Britain then America, but France, Germany, Italy, Portugal and Spain.
They destroyed Ancient Peoples, of Russia via the Empire-backed Revolution, and China also. But their day is gone, they are done. The People of Empire are clinging onto an old Paradigm. They talk of a New World Order, but they are Old World; old in belief and Paradigm and outlook. The New World is made of those nations the Old World destroyed, either partly or totally, and New World is led by Russia and China, with others slowly joining in. The new world has a new Paradigm, one of mutual respect, cooperation, and non-interference in the sovereignty of neighbouring peoples, and its time has come. 2022 was the pivotal year when this became apparent, and now it will slowly solidify, grow and become rapidly more accepted as the Old World flies West with the Cranes. Even in Mayan history, the West was known as the Dark place from which Death came. It’s day is done. The sun rises in the East, and it’s from there the New World is beginning, the East and the North. Thank God for it – may it grow swiftly and the misery the world has known for 500 years be put to rest as soon as can be.
on January 01, 2023 · at 1:46 pm EST/EDT
RE: Weaponised general confusion
Polls show that the public doesn’t think Russia is a threat because we are winning and fighting over there and Ukraine is the good guys. As long as the Neo-cons and libs don’t think Russia is dangerous to them, they will try to subdue Russia, and if the need arises for the US to use tactical nukes, Russia will be blamed because they are losing. We know what winning looks like in Iraqu and Afghanistan and Vietnam, and it was shock and awe. We also used napalm, which would be effective in trench warfare, cluster bombs, perfect against infantry, and depleted uranium. Russia is fighting trying to fight a moral war, which looks weak. Yes, the public thinks war is Tom Cruise flying around and bombing bad guys, and we are winning. Actually, it is Russia’s apparent weakness, its not wanting to fight a nuclear war, and not wanting to hurt anybody makes nuclear war more likely.
on December 30, 2022 · at 8:19 am EST/EDT
The 2nd question that must be asked is –
How long will it be before our Euro-Elites come to the realisation that their Romanesque incestuous orgy of lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, and pride, the 7 deadly sins, with their American peers is over?
Pride for sure will be the greatest hurdle, but with a rope (and hard labour) awaiting the Captains/Champions of the Sinking Ship the rest of the Motley Crew will see the light.
Those who pick up the reigns will now turn to Russia, pay whatever penance/restitution is demanded, and hopefully after a period of say 2 decades, become fully integrated under the protective umbrella of Russia & China & Allied Partnerships.
Every American base/construct in Zone B/Europe will be dismantled, turned into housing or used for appropriate industrial purposes to aid the recovery in all of the countries they’ve subjugated.
America will be treated as a pariah state, a leper colony, much like they’ve treated Cuba & DPRK. Ostracized, Americans can now begin the process of cleansing their own financial and political parasites. In half a century they can apply for multipolar membership having met certain periodic criteria.
Fittingly, the judges who signed our rights away will be among the first to feel the rope burns.
on December 30, 2022 · at 11:55 am EST/EDT
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Why do i keep seeing iran in the list of the big four is always a mystery to me. as an Iranian i don't see any greatness in our technological and industrial capabilities. we may become powerful if we survive the current protests, regime change and the economic maelstrom of our own making.
OnePinguArmy on December 31, 2022 · at 11:37 am EST/EDT